Droopy Leaves after week 3.5

I have just noticed a marked difference in my small plant.

Its just turned week 4 and the green leaves look a bit Droopy and the Tap Root has turned darker at the bottom.

Should I be concerned

Frankie

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Hi,

1st Grow.
Started 6th Dec.
Using distilled water
No Mods of any kind.

Just a little worried with the Droop and the discolouration of the bottom Half of the Tap root.

The stem looks quite strong

The top half of the Tap Root is starting to sprout small roots ?

Appreciate any advice :slight_smile:

Frankie Becker

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Hi Frankie and welcome to AG. Congrats on starting your first grow. We’d like to see a picture of your roots inside your reservoir as well.

First of all, you can start with pushing your coco pod up to at LEAST level with the lid as per Grobo’s recommended planting instructions, unless you have a lid with a sticker inside of it that says place pod here, but I don’t think you do. Personally, I’d aim for a little higher, like say 1/4- 1/2" higher and put a mini fan or two directed at your stem and pod on low to start drying out your pod. A pod that is too wet can cause damping off. A picture of your stalk where it meets the pod all the way around would be great. If your plant is starting to damp off, you’ll see dark spots or blotches or just darkness where the stem meets the pod due to too much moisture. Then somewhere below this sign will be some constriction in the stem, strangling it and not allowing it to drink, which will also show in the leaves.

Did you just hit late veg? In late veg the water level rises and my guess is your pod is sitting in the water with no oxygen space between it and the water which it needs. It’s really hard to tell this unless you have a gopro or other underwater camera to be certain, peekaboo doesn’t do it, lol.

Other things you really should have in there are a hygrometer to know the temperature and humidity inside the Grobo and an aquarium thermometer to tell you the temperature of the water inside the reservoir. If your water’s too warm, you’re susceptible to root rot, which can cause root discoloration and droopy leaves. Do your roots feel slimy or smell bad? Those are other indications.

Could just be that your pod needs to move up, could just be thirsty from the looks of it, need more pictures, closer up, including roots, temperatures if you have them please.

You can read about root rot and damping off both by using the search tool here and by visiting www.growweedeasy.com, they have TONS of information on those and many other cannabis issues we could possibly face along the grow.

It may even be nothing at this point, hard to say from that one picture. If you suspect something’s up though, submit a ticket and support will help get you squared away! :smiley:

Good luck @Frankie

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Thanks All :slight_smile:

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Great post @Angiebaby !

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Thanks @pyromancy! I’m learning!! :smiley:

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@Angiebaby is pretty spot on. The biggest cause of the droopiness I believe is in agreeance with some of what she said, as the pod may be too saturated at this point which could be cutting off some oxygen to the plant. This is one of the main causes of drooping or wilting look of the leaves. The Late Vegetation water level can cause this sometimes as it’s back to High fill now, which will be much closer to the pod.

Another thing to keep in mind is that there might be an issue with your pH probe. Sometimes they don’t arrive the way they should from the factory.

I would possibly suggest sending in a support ticket to Grobo to have them take a look at the pH probe and what it’s reading on their end:

How does Bottle #1 and Bottle #2 look so far? These are the pH up and pH down bottles respectively which the Grobo monitors the use of hourly. Can you post a picture of those just to make sure one isn’t being overused this early in the grow?

As far as your tap root – sometimes they become stained from the nutrients (most of the time actually)… Sprouting little baby roots from the main one is completely normal and will start to build the strong root system for your plant in that manner!

A picture of the roots/reservoir would help us diagnose any issues down there, though.

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Help

My “1st born” is now severely stunted and most root is discoloured

I have severe Root Rot.

The plant has already gone into a 12/12 light cycle - At its present size and state of repair, I wonder if I have to start again or somehow send it back into veg growth ie 6/18 light cycle

Hydroguard is not easily available

Await help

Frank

Can you post some pics of the plant, the main stem where it goes into the cocopod, and pics of your nute bottles?

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@Frankie,

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@Stephen
I’m about 1/2 way through my transition phase and since switching over I noticed the leaves getting yellow in the inner part of the leaf. Was doing so well.
Any thoughts?
It’s a Brice Banner Auto that I was told to switch to a generic auto recipe about the same time.
Any help would be appreciated.
@Babbyfuzz1

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@Babbyfuzz1,

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  • (I Want To Look At Your Bubbler System First To Make Sure She Is Producing Enough Bubbles): (If Not You Want To Get One [ASAP] [AirStone] -And- [AirPump]): {:white_check_mark:}:

  • (We Can Then Look To See If Your Pod Is Dry Yet [It Should Be By Now]):? :question:

  • (It’s Good To Keep Track Of Your Nutrient Usages, To See If They Are Dispersing Properly After Every [Drain/Fill]): {:white_check_mark:}:

  • 1.) A picture of your plant’s roots. Simply lift the lid a couple inches, snap a picture of the bottom of your coco pod. {This Checks To See If They Look [Good/ White/Clean/Healthy]
    -And- Not [Slimy/Stinky] }: {:white_check_mark:}:

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  • 2.) A picture of your plant’s stem. Simply lift the bottom canopy to reveal where the stem meets the coco pod, snap a picture. {We Are Checking To See If It Is Healthy -And- Not [DampingOff]}:{:white_check_mark:}:


  • 3.) What type of water are you using? RO, distilled, tap, other? {Tap Water Not Best To Grow With}: {:white_check_mark:}:

  • 4.) Have you made any modifications to the unit or environment? (i.e. Add a chiller to your tank, humidifier to the room) {:white_check_mark:}:

  • 5.) Have you added any supplements to the reservoir? (i.e. Hydroguard to fight root rot) {:white_check_mark:}:

  • 6.) Have you adjusted your schedule at all? (i.e. Shifted a stage, added more time to a stage)
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  • 7.) Have you cleaned and calibrated your pH probe between grows? If this is a new unit, it will arrive calibrated. If not, a calibration in between grows is necessary to maintain your probe’s accuracy.

  • 8.) (We Will Need To Know Your Grow Envirement Temps [Water/Air/Humidity]): {:white_check_mark:}:

  • 9.) (What Stage Is Your Grow On [Germination/EarlyVeg./LateVeg./Transition/Flower/Flush]): {:white_check_mark:}:

  • Please let me know, and I can then combine your answers with your data to get a clear picture of what’s happening.


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@SilverGrobo @Stephen @HappyHappyJoyJoy
Air stone appears to be working well. See pic for roots,stem.
It’s a Bruce Banner Autoflower seed
Shifted the schedule from Bruce Banner auto and was in extended late veg x 3 due to small size. Shifted to a generic auto and into transition based on some advice. Currently 9/14 transition phase. Little trimming of fan leaves on lowest part about 2wks ago otherwise was bending some of the larger fans.
Using distilled the entire time. Put a small humidifier inside the unit on pulse to try and raise humidity from low 30’s to upper 30’s and temp always mid to low 70’s.
Roots not slimy.
Water change on Tue and added some Revive at 1/2 strength because it looked like shit. First time with any additional nutrients.
It’s the first grow in this box.
Currently in the box says 79deg and 25% humidity.
Pod feels moist

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0067ppm and water temp is 72

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Hey @Babbyfuzz1,

Hit up our team by emailing support@grobo.io and we can assist.

Cheers,
Stephen

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Hey @Babbyfuzz1,

Rolling through tickets this morning I came across yours! Whoot!! I’ve responded for you. :wink:

TLDR; No WLS Shield is in place. Plant roots are grabbing the sensors preventing food from being dispensed each drain/fill.

Cheers,
Stephen

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Help, don’t want to lose this. It’s my first grow and was going so well.

Air stone appears to be working well. See pic for roots,stem.
It’s a Bruce Banner Autoflower seed
Shifted the schedule from Bruce Banner auto and was in extended late veg x 3 due to small size. Shifted to a generic auto and into transition based on some advice. Currently 9/14 transition phase. Little trimming of fan leaves on lowest part about 2wks ago otherwise was bending some of the larger fans.
Using distilled the entire time. Put a small humidifier inside the unit on pulse to try and raise humidity from low 30’s to upper 30’s and temp always mid to low 70’s.
Roots not slimy.
Water change on Tue and added some Revive at 1/2 strength because it looked like shit. First time with any additional nutrients.
It’s the first grow in this box.
Currently in the box says 79deg and 25% humidity.
Pod feels moist

Since these pics I pushed the coco pod up. No more humidifier inside and shifted it back to the Bruce Banner Auto schedule and kept in transition

Help

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Looks ok to me. Maybe fought off dampening
What do you think is wrong ?

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@Todd.grobo
Let’s hope. Since I wasn’t get much response from anyone I pretty much flipped it Mack to the Bruce Auto recipe, pushed the pod up, quit any humidifier.
Let’s see?

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