5th grow - Jack Herer (Auto)

Usually they will just rip off, thats what I do

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This is what I usually do if there isn’t already a lot of foliage; just let it dry up and it’ll pull right off eventually. If in doubt just let the plant tell you when it’s done with it – which is typically good practice with autoflowers.

Deficiency problems don’t really spread like something such as mildew might, but my logic here has been If she’s taking nutrients from a leaf instead of the water then removing that leaf might cause her to draw from a different leaf instead; so if there aren’t many to spare then it’s not a good idea to cut yet.

The flip-side to that, is if she’s trying to keep dying leaves alive and not actually drawing from them anymore. There is a point where they become a drag on other growth.

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Makes sense, thank you. I ended up cutting it, hopefully she responds well. I also peaked under the hood and noticed that I’ve a bunch of these nice white roots beginning to grow, but my older roots look super thin & scraggly. Should I be concerned?

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If there’s new root growth I wouldn’t worry. You’ll notice issues up top before down below.

Yours should start growing more soon which should make up for the loss. Do you have an updated pic of up top, watch the new growth to get an idea of how fast it’s developing. That’s where to watch for progress (or lack of).

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Actually, after double-checking your pic (after posting, of course) I notice you’ve got a bud site with hairs?

She might already be flowering…

Taken this morning. I’m doing a water change tonight, I’m thinking about putting her into transition since I extended early veg twice already and she’s showing pistils. I know we said to wait til it fills out, but those hairs worry me :grimacing: Maybe two weeks transition will be enough for her to get where she needs to be before flower?

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Do you think it’s a sign of stress, or just genetics?

I’d ride it out if it’s only a few days until transition anyways.

That top facing pic looks better, the bud looked more mature in the previous pic but I can see in this one that it’s still just starting.

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I was planning to, but I’ve seen you guys mentioning lining up your flips with your water change. Should I leave the water unchanged if I keep it in early veg? She has 3 more days left as of 4pm today.

Btw, she’s starting to smell already … like a citrus musk lol

Stress is probably the #1 factor in most cases.

I believe that it’s tough to call out the genetics unless it easily “hermies” or just won’t pop in any condition or is unstable with too much variance or different phenotypes. Plus, that’s only possible to know with enough experience and when growing at a larger scale – doing a plant at a time in a single environment (as we do) doesn’t really give a good enough sample size for that.

The best we can do is see what works for others and try to reproduce the quality/yield/etc given their examples, with a bit of experimentation and personallization for our own environments. :wink:

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Right, she’s usually in great humidity & temps and when my humidifiers go out or the temps get a little high, it’s never more than a half hr before I realize and adjust accordingly so it’s weird. I’m growing the same strain next grow so I’ll find out in time.

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No! She is going to make the most glorious miraculous 180 EVERRR :speaking_head::zap:!:zap:!:zap:!

:rofl:

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Just as I did with my last grow, let her sit in complete darkness for 2½ days before chopping down. Around the 48 hr mark the smell changed from being sharp to sweet which is the same as the prior time I tried this.

Trimmed and hung to dry using the drying mode:

Really excited for this one. It’s not as bulky as the last grow but can catch a buzz just being too close to it. :fuelpump: :fire: :airplane:

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Can you explain the why of your concept to me sounds interesting? Have you ever encountered mold issues doing this?

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@Bplatinum9 I did notice the humidity was around 60% when I opened the grobo after the 2 days but that was mostly because the fans weren’t running - I literally unplugged it from the wall to accomplish this (remember I have 2 air stones still running in this case).

It would’ve been much better to use a darkness recipe vs unplugging it for that reason. It might’ve started to mold if it were warmer or longer.

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What’s the theory behind leaving her in complete darkness for 2.5 days before chopping?

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From what I gathered these are the supposed effects:

  • stops photosynthesis, so the plant uses nutrients instead of storing them during this time – i.e. encourages plant to take more energy from leaves (leaving less undesirables to flush/cure away)

  • promotes the most bud growth during the final hours, as it’s said that the buds grow at night; people also say it frosts up a bit more (trichomes) during this period but I haven’t yet tried to measure that (have before/after pics but hard to tell from them)

It’s a lightweight means to shock the plant one last time which either helps or does nothing (i.e. shouldn’t kill or hurt, besides potential humidity issue noticed this time; but that was due to grobo not the technique)

Something anecdotal about this, is that in the past I was told to always chop at 5am before the sun comes up (outdoor growing), for which I never was given any explanation. After researching this a bit more recently I believe that this was the reason - to catch the plant before any photosynthesis has occurred for that day.

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Wow, interesting. My dwarfed plant is probably going to yield like 7 grams * cue sad trombones *, but I’m going to try this anyway. Seems like it can’t do any harm and the logic behind it makes sense.

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